The Comment HuffPost Doesn't Want You to See
The Comment HuffPost Doesn't Want You to See

So, some guy named Jarvis Coffin wrote this rather ridiculous post a week ago on Huffington Post titled "Reports of the Death of Advertising Are Exaggerated." (They aren't, by the way.) I was directed to it by a friend, so I read it word for word. Then I dashed off a comment because the web is all about interaction, right? So I interacted.

HuffPo warns you that it moderates all comments to prevent "ad hominem" attacks and abusive comments and off-topic nonsense and other crimes against nature or humanity. So I tried to keep it clean and impersonal, clicked "submit" and waited patiently. And waited. And checked back after a bit. And waited. And so on. Ten hours passed. Then about 144 more.

Like I said, the web is about interaction, not interminable delay. Interminable delay is the core of traditional media, not digital. Finally, with nothing of my comment yet in sight, I have decided to take action and do what good netizens are supposed to do: Publish the comment myself.  So here it is:

One potential problem with HuffPo is that anyone, apparently, can shoot off his mouth with any or no justification. There is not a single fact in this meandering post. And the offending language -- which is the traditional media exec's verbal equivalent of a jerking knee or a facial tic -- can be found here:

"As an industry we have discussed that changes may have to be made by some... For the most part this means specialization, or enhanced relevancy.  Newspapers don't have to disappear, but they may have to stop trying to be all things to all people. Ditto most every media business."

See? He did it. He just changed the subject. In the middle of talking about advertising, he suggests that traditional media's all-too-evident problems  with tumbling ad revenue (down roughly 30% across print properties in Q1) can be solved by changing journalism or somehow fixing other content.

Now tell me:  How exactly does that work? That's like having your plumber tell you he's going to fix that clogged toilet by repainting the bathroom. But when he's done, you'll just wind up with a pretty pink bathroom knee-deep in excrement instead of a blue one.

If you think that comment is ad hominem, abusive or off topic, please let me know. Otherwise, please let HuffPo know that their moderators should move a little quicker in the 21st century. And also let them know that reports of the death of advertising have been understated, if anything, except by Jarvis Coffin.

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June 18. 2009 5:29 PM

m-scott-hay

Jarvis Coffin's point is clear. Ad shops may have to specialize. Newspapers may have to specialize. Most every media may have to specialize.

I don't agree with him btw. Most ad shops are suffering and many will have to close, despite good strategy for the future.

But he was clear in his point. Maybe someone at HuffPo just didn't like the "shoot off his mouth" part.
http://posthaste.henkinschultz.com/

m-scott-hay

June 17. 2009 12:53 PM

Paul

When it comes to heavy-handed comment moderation, nobody can hold a candle to The Daily Mail. So reluctant are they to engage in any kind of reasoned debate that they outright refuse to publish comments that disagree with their editorial position.

And, as it tends to, this often lands them in hot water. Last year, after The Daily Mail refused to publish ANY comments criticising a wildly inaccurate article on 'Google Bombing' by Julie Moult, one frustrated blogger decided to teach her - and the newspaper - a lesson. Appropriately, he dropped his very own Google Bomb; just perform a Google search for Julie Moult to see how successful it was.

But more interestingly, he began a bit of a campaign against The Daily Mail's reluctance to interact with readers. If you have a spare minute, take a look at the following page to see how the newspaper eventually responded to this charge. And how their argument was then utterly ripped to shreds. In the end, as you will see, they DID publish a single comment challenging Julie Moult's understanding of Google Bombing, but not before the newspaper's online reputation had been dragged through the mud.

http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2008/09/the_daily_mail_responds.asp

Paul

June 17. 2009 4:23 AM

Mark - we'd never knowingly not publish a comment. I know that some users have issues with our captcha - sometimes it will ask you to re-enter it but doesn't make it obvious, leading to comments not actually being submitted. We're trying to sort it out because we know it is a bit frustrating.

I you still have the comment, or can remember its content, please feel free to repost. We're quite happy to have our thinking bombed out. It happens in everyday life about five times a day so I don't see why it wouldn't happen here.

Martin

June 17. 2009 4:12 AM

Mark

you hypocrites!
I posted on this blog a couple of months ago - questioning your understanding of the manner in which newspapers worked - it never appeared – I had always presumed because it bombed out the thinking within the original post
you win my social media carpetbaggers of the day award.....

http://strategicdigitalthinking.blogspot.com/

Mark

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